{"id":56892,"date":"2022-12-01T17:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-12-01T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/funbridge.com\/blog\/?p=56892"},"modified":"2022-12-09T12:51:05","modified_gmt":"2022-12-09T10:51:05","slug":"the-truth-about-the-subject-of-third-suit-forcing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/funbridge.com\/blog\/en\/the-truth-about-the-subject-of-third-suit-forcing\/","title":{"rendered":"The truth about the subject of third suit forcing"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Even if it is less complex than fourth suit forcing, the third suit forcing doesn\u2019t conceal less traps in which many bridge players, even experienced ones, get caught when they are not attentive enough. Alain L\u00e9vy, super specialist on this topic, asks you to disentangle the true from the false in sometimes delicate situations.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Summary<\/strong><\/p>

Definition of third suit forcing – true or false?<\/a><\/p>

Opener\u2019s rebid \u2013 true or false?<\/a><\/p>

Responder\u2019s third bid – true or false?<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

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1. Definition of third suit forcing – true or false?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n
  1. There are only three possible sequences for a third suit forcing.<\/li>
  2. Third suit forcing can be made with 9HCP upwards.<\/li>
  3. Third suit forcing promises a stopper in the named suit.<\/li>
  4. Third suit forcing is auto-forcing.<\/li>
  5. Third suit forcing elongates responder\u2019s major.<\/li>
  6. The sequence 1♣️-1♠️-2♣️-2♦️ can hide four cards in Hearts.<\/li>
  7. There is no third suit forcing after 1♦️-1♥️-2♦️.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n
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    Solutions<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
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    1. There are only three possible sequences for a third suit forcing. – TRUE<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Third suit forcing only exists after a repetition (without jump) of opener\u2019s minor and is made by bidding the (unbid) suit that is the immediate next step:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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    3<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

    The next three sequences use a third suit that is outside the box that defines a third suit forcing:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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    Without going into detail (this is not the topic of the day), these third suits have a tendency of being natural:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    • 2♠️ shows four Hearts and four Spades, game forcing.<\/li>
    • 2♥️ shows five Spades and four Hearts, forcing one round but not game forcing.<\/li>
    • There are different opinions about 3♣️. Game forcing for all, but for some it has a tendency of being a two-suited hand with five Spades and at least three Clubs, for others it shows a Club stopper with exactly four Spades.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
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      2. Third suit forcing can be made with 9HCP upwards. – TRUE<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      Opener\u2019s range is 11-16HCP. Responder can be in the range for game from 9HCP on; his distribution may encourage him to bid again.<\/p>\n\n\n

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      Game in Spades is possible, the No-trump game is certainly farther away.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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      3. Third suit forcing promises a stopper in the named suit. – FALSE<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      Third suit forcing is an artificial bid that promises neither a stopper nor even a certain length. It is merely a relay to learn more about opener\u2019s strength and distribution.<\/p>\n\n\n

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      4. Third suit forcing is auto-forcing. – FALSE<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      If both players are minimum, their total is not more than 20HCP and it is necessary to stop quickly. Responder can pass over any bid by opener that limits his hand to the 11-13HCP range. This is the essential difference between a third suit forcing and a fourth suit forcing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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      5. Third suit forcing elongates responder\u2019s major. – FALSE<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      It\u2019s possible that all responder is looking for are stoppers to play 3 No-Trump. He can still have only four cards in his major, but also five or six.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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      ♠️ K Q 9 6<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      ♥️ A 10 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      ♦️ K 10<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      ♣️ J 9 4 3<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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      ♠️ K Q 9 6 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      ♥️ A 10 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      ♦️ K 10 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      ♣️ J 9<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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      ♠️ K Q 9 7 6 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      ♥️ A 10 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      ♦️ K 10 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      ♣️ J<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

      The sequence is the same with these three hands:<\/p>\n\n\n

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      6. The sequence 1♣️-1♠️-2♣️-2♦️ can hide four cards in Hearts. – FALSE<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      Like any conventional bid, third suit forcing is only used in the absence of a satisfactory natural bid. Over 2♣️, the natural 2♥️ bid is used under the same conditions as third suit forcing; the conventional 2♦️ bid therefore denies four Hearts.<\/p>\n\n\n

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      7. There is no third suit forcing after 1♦️-1♥️-2♦️. – TRUE<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

      To bid a new suit in this sequence (2♠️ or 3♣️), responder must go higher then to repeat his major. This would therefore be natural and show a strong two-suiter; auto-forcing and game forcing. To help you remember the difference, these two third suits are not \u201cglued\u201d to the 2♦️ bid.<\/p>\n\n\n

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      2. Opener\u2019s rebid \u2013 true or false?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n

      1.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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      • 2♠️ is non-forcing.<\/li>
      • 2NT is forcing.<\/li>
      • 3♣️ is forcing.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
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        2.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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        • 3♥️ is non-forcing.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
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          3.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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          • 2♠️ promises a minimum of 14HCP.<\/li>
          • 2♠️ promises a Spade stopper.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
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            4.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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            • 3♥️ is a forcing bid.<\/li>
            • 3♥️ promises four Hearts in a wide range: 11-16HCP.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
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              5.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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              • Opener denies three Spades.<\/li>
              • Opener promises a Diamond stopper.<\/li>
              • The bid is non-forcing.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
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                6.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                • Opener promises 14-16HCP.<\/li>
                • Opener promises values in Hearts.<\/li>
                • Opener promises four Hearts.<\/li>
                • The bid is auto-forcing.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
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                  7.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                  • Opener promises 14-16HCP.<\/li>
                  • Opener promises four Diamonds.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
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                    8.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                    • Opener promises to stop Hearts and Clubs.<\/li>
                    • Opener promises 14-16HCP.<\/li>
                    • Opener suggests a singleton Spade.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
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                      Solutions<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

                      1.<\/strong> After:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                      • 2♠️ is non-forcing. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li>
                      • 2NT is forcing. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li>
                      • 3♣️ is forcing. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                        These three bids are made with hands in the range of 11-13HCP and they are the only three non-forcing bids that opener has at his disposal on the third round of the bidding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        2♠️ promises three cards (two cards are possible when it goes 1♦️-1♠️-2♦️-2♥️-2♠️ for lack of space).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        2NT indicates a stopper in Heart and Diamonds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        3♣️ shows a good six-card suit. Examples:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                        ♠️ Q 9 6<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        ♥️ 10 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        ♦️ K 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        ♣️ A Q J 9 5 4<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                        ♠️ J 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        ♥️ Q J 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        ♦️ K 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        ♣️ K Q 9 7 6 2<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                        ♠️ 9<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        ♥️ K Q 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        ♦️ 10 8 6<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                        ♣️ A K 8 7 6 5<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                        2.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                        • 3♥️ is non-forcing. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                          This is a non-forcing fit bid, in the 11-12HCP range. Example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                          ♠️ 5<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                          ♥️ K Q J 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                          ♦️ Q 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                          ♣️ K 10 8 7 6 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                          If opener wants to play game, he jumps directly to 4♥️ or if he is interested in slam, he can make a Splinter at 4♦️ or jump to 4♣️ to show a singleton Spade. See below.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                          3.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                          • 2♠️ promises a minimum of 14HCP. TRUE<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                            When the fourth suit is higher than the level of repetition of responder\u2019s major, it is game forcing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                            • 2♠️ promises a Spade stopper. FALSE<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                              The 2♠️ bid can show the lack of a Diamond stopper just as well as the lack of a Spade stopper – in both cases, opener cannot jump to 3NT. Example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                              ♠️ 10 8 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                              ♥️ J<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                              ♦️ A K 8<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                              ♣️ A Q 7 6 5 4<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                              or<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                              ♠️ A K 8<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                              ♥️ J<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                              ♦️ 10 8 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                              ♣️ A Q 7 6 5 4<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

                              Bidding 3♣️ would limit opener\u2019s hand to 11(bad)-13HCP whereas 3♦️ would guarantee four Diamonds (see question 7).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                              4.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                              • 3♥️ is a forcing bid. TRUE<\/strong><\/li>
                              • 3♥️ promises four Hearts in a wide range: 11-16HCP. TRUE<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                Responder has neither denied nor promised four Hearts, so opener\u2019s priority must be to show four Hearts if he has them, but without going higher than 3NT (therefore in a forcing situation) if he has 11-16HCP. Examples:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                                ♠️ Q 5<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                ♥️ A 10 7 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                ♦️ K Q 9 5 4 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                ♣️ 9<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                                ♠️ 9<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                ♥️ K Q 7 6<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                ♦️ A Q 8 6 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                ♣️ A 9 7<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                Comment:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                With four Hearts and three Spades, opener jumps to 4♣️:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                ♠️ K 10 5<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                ♥️ Q J 9 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                ♦️ A K 9 8 6 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                ♣️ –<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                                5.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                                • Opener denies three Spades. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                  With three Spades, opener responds 2♠️, never 2NT.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                  • Opener promises a Diamond stopper. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                    2♥️ being natural, the Diamond stopper is enough to bid No-trump.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    Example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    ♠️ 10<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    ♥️ Q 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    ♦️ K J 9 6<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    ♣️ A Q 9 5 4 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    Note that 2NT does not promise balanced distribution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    Also note this sequence of a third suit forcing:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                                    Facing a third suit forcing, you need to have stoppers in the third (here: Diamonds) and fourth (Hearts) suit to bid No-trump. 2NT therefore promises stoppers in both red suits. Examples:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                                    ♠️ Q 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    ♥️ K 10 8<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    ♦️ K 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    ♣️ A 9 7 6 5 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    2NT<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                                    ♠️ A 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    ♥️ 10 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    ♦️ K Q 8<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    ♣️ K J 7 5 4 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                    2♥️<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                    • The bid is non-forcing. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                      2NT promises 11-13HCP and is therefore non-forcing. 3NT indicates 14-16HCP.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                                      6.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                                      • Opener promises 14-16HCP. FALSE. 2♥️ is fourth suit forcing, but economical, i.e. lower than the level of repetition of responder\u2019s Spades. Therefore, it is ambiguous about the strength and shows 11-16HCP.<\/li>
                                      • Opener promises values in Hearts. FALSE.<\/strong> This bid does not provide any precision on the location of honors.<\/li>
                                      • Opener promises four Hearts. FALSE.<\/strong> It is used with a stopper problem in Diamonds or Hearts or a bad Club suit.<\/li>
                                      • The bid is auto-forcing. FALSE.<\/strong> It is not auto-forcing, and in the range of 11(bad)-13HCP. Opener can pass over 2♠️ and 2NT, but only over these two bids. Examples:<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
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                                        ♠️ Q 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                        ♥️ 9 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                        ♦️ K Q 6<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                        ♣️ A J 8 7 6 2<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                                        ♠️ A<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                        ♥️ A K 6 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                        ♦️ 8 2Q 8<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                        ♣️ K 9 6 5 4 2<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                                        7.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                                        • Opener promises 14-16HCP and four Diamonds. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                          This is natural and shows four-card support in the 14-16HCP range and is, therefore, game forcing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                          A 6-4 distribution with Clubs-Diamonds is common. With five Clubs and four Diamonds and a singleton in a major, it is often necessary to favor the opening of 1♦️. Examples:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                                          ♠️ K 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                          ♥️ 8<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                          ♦️ A K 10 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                          ♣️ K Q 9 7 4 3<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                                          ♠️ 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                          ♥️ A J 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                          ♦️ A 10 8 6<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                          ♣️ K Q J 9 4<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                          Repeating the Clubs is not a problem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                                          8.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                                          • Opener promises to stop Hearts and Clubs. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                            As the 2♥️ bid promises nothing about Hearts, 3NT promises a stopper in the two unnamed suits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                            • Opener promises 14-16HCP. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                              Opener must make a difference between hands of the first and second zone. With 11-13HCP he bids 2NT, over which responder can pass, and with 14-16HCP he must jump to game.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                              • Opener suggests a singleton Spade. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                                Balanced hands with 14-16HCP are often opened by 1NT; hence a singleton Spade is frequent in this sequence. Examples:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                                                Hand #1<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                ♠️ Q<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                ♥️ A J 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                ♦️ K Q 9 8 7 5<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                ♣️ K 10 2<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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                                                Hand #2<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                ♠️ Q 6<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                ♥️ A J 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                ♦️ K Q 9 8 7 5<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                ♣️ K 2<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                Opening 1NT with hand #2 is a pragmatic move. The above sequence is a good description of hand #1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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                                                3. Responder\u2019s third bid – true or false?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n
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                                                1.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

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                                                • 3♣️ is non-forcing.<\/li>
                                                • 3♣️ guarantees five Spades.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
                                                  <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                  2.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                  \n
                                                  \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                  • 3♦️ elongates the Spades.<\/li>
                                                  • 3♦️ promises a Diamond stopper.<\/li>
                                                  • 3♦️ shows a two-suiter Spades-Diamonds.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
                                                    <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                    3.<\/strong> Be careful, difficult! In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                    \n
                                                    \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                    • 2NT is natural.<\/li>
                                                    • 2NT is non-forcing.<\/li>
                                                    • 2NT denies five cards in Spades.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
                                                      <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                      4.<\/strong> Be careful, difficult! In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                      \n
                                                      \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                      • 3♥️ asks for a Heart stopper.<\/li>
                                                      • 3♥️ shows a Heart stopper.<\/li>
                                                      • 3♥️ shows a control with Club support.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
                                                        <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                        5.<\/strong> Be careful, difficult! In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                        \n
                                                        \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                        • 3♥️ shows a two-suiter 5-5 Spades-Hearts.<\/li>
                                                        • 3♥️ is non-forcing.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
                                                          <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                          6.<\/strong> Be careful, difficult! In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                          \n
                                                          \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                          • 4NT is RKCB with Hearts as trumps.<\/li>
                                                          • 4NT is RKCB with Clubs as trumps.<\/li>
                                                          • 4NT is natural and non-forcing.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
                                                            <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                            7.<\/strong> Be careful, difficult! In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                            \n
                                                            \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                            • 3NT is a suggestion to play there; responder has five Spades.<\/li>
                                                            • 3NT is natural. Responder has four Spades.<\/li>
                                                            • 3NT is a relay to start cue-bids to investigate a Spade slam.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n
                                                              <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                              Solutions<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
                                                              <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                              1.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                              \n
                                                              \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                              • 3♣️ is non-forcing. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li>
                                                              • 3♣️ guarantees five Spades. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                                                Third suit forcing has transformed the non-forcing direct raise of 3♣️ over 2♣️ in a forcing raise. Responder directs the bidding towards a Club contract. He doesn\u2019t deny five Spades, but most of the time he has only four.<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                                \n
                                                                \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n
                                                                \n
                                                                \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n

                                                                Rule<\/strong><\/p>

                                                                Any further bid by responder after third suit forcing is game forcing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

                                                                There is no good rule without an exception. If opener continues with an ambiguous fourth suit forcing of 2♥️, then 2♠️ and 2NT by responder are non-forcing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                2.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                                \n
                                                                \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                                • 3♦️ elongates the Spades. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                                                  Bidding 3♦️ does not elongate the Spades. On the contrary, it denies five Spades and directs the final contract towards 3 No-trump.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                  • 3♦️ promises a Diamond stopper. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                                                    It promises a Diamond stopper and asks for a Heart stopper. Example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                    ♠️ K 10 8 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                    ♥️ 8 7 5<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                    ♦️ A J 9<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                    ♣️ K J 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                    <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                    3.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                                    \n
                                                                    \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                                    • 2NT is natural. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li>
                                                                    • 2NT is non-forcing. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li>
                                                                    • 2NT denies five Spades. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      It’s the absolute opposite! With a hand that follows all three conditions, responder would directly bid 2NT over 2♣️. Here, 2NT becomes a game forcing relay that shows exactly five Spades and therefore interest in a Spade slam. It asks for details on opener\u2019s distribution, just like the 2NT relay in the sequence 1♣️-1♠️-2♠️-2NT.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      Example :<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      ♠️ A Q 10 8 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      ♥️ A 10 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      ♦️ K 8 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      ♣️ K 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      Comment :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      With six Spades and the same interest in slam, responder bids 3♠️ over 2♠️.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                      4.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                                      \n
                                                                      \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                                      • 3♥️ asks for a Heart stopper. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li>
                                                                      • 3♥️ shows a Heart stopper. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li>
                                                                      • 3♥️ shows a control with Club support. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                                                        This bid shows a Heart stopper and asks for a Diamond stopper.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                        It is not a cue-bid showing Club support: with Club support, you\u2019d first raise 4♣️ to 3♣️, and show your controls later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                        Rule<\/strong><\/p>

                                                                        After a third suit forcing, responder\u2019s bids are affirmative.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

                                                                        <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                        5.<\/strong> In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                                        \n
                                                                        \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                                        • 3♥️ shows a two-suiter 5-5 Spades-Hearts. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li>
                                                                        • 3♥️ is non-forcing. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                                                          2♥️ being artificial, 2NT confirms a stopper in Clubs and Hearts. Therefore, there is no longer the need to show any stoppers. Consequently 3♥️ is natural, showing a limit hand (10-11HCP) and 5-5 in the majors. Example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                          ♠️ K J 9 5 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                          ♥️ Q J 8 7 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                          ♦️ 10<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                          ♣️ K 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                          With 12HCP or more, responder must jump to 3♥️ to show a 5-5 in the majors in a game forcing hand<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                          <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                          6.<\/strong> Be careful, difficult! In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                                          \n
                                                                          \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                                          • 4NT is RKCB with Hearts as trumps. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li>
                                                                          • 4NT is RKCB with Clubs as trumps. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li>
                                                                          • 4NT is natural and non-forcing. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                                                            4♣️ can\u2019t be natural: with a strong hand, responder would have jumped to 3♣️ over 1♠️ and to go over 3NT after answering 2♣️ doesn\u2019t make sense. Over the natural 2♥️ bid, opener has three other bids at the four-level to show that he has a game-forcing hand with Heart support (remember that 3♥️ is not forcing):<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                            • 4♣️: 14-16HCP, singleton Spade, frequently six Clubs and four Hearts.<\/li>
                                                                            • 4♦️: 14-16HCP, Singleton Diamond, frequently six Clubs and four Hearts.<\/li>
                                                                            • 4♥️: 14-16HCP, just a bit too good to bid 3♥️, often five Clubs and four Hearts.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              Examples:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              \n
                                                                              \n

                                                                              ♠️ 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              ♥️ K J 8 5<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              ♦️ A 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              ♣️ A Q 9 5 4 2<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              \n

                                                                              ♠️ K 9<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              ♥️ A Q 9 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              ♦️ 8<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              ♣️ K Q 10 7 3 2<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              \n

                                                                              ♠️ 10<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              ♥️ K 9 8 7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              ♦️ K Q 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              ♣️ A K 8 6 4<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                              7.<\/strong> Be careful, difficult! In the sequence:<\/p>\n\n\n

                                                                              \n
                                                                              \"\"<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n
                                                                              • 3NT is a suggestion to play there; responder has five Spades. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li>
                                                                              • 3NT is natural. Responder has four Spades. FALSE.<\/strong><\/li>
                                                                              • 3NT is a relay to start cue-bids to investigate a Spade slam. TRUE.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                3♠️ confirms three-card support and 14-16HCP, usually in an unbalanced hand (by inference of the failure of opening 1NT). Therefore, responder can\u2019t suggest to play 3 No-Trump if he has five Spades. It\u2019s not possible either that he bids 3NT naturally with four Spades; he would have answered 3NT over 2♦️.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                At this moment in the bidding, 3NT is therefore a relay to start cue-bids to investigate a Spade slam. Example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                ♠️ K Q 7 6 3 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                ♥️ A 9 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                ♦️ K 8<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                ♣️ 10 5<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                A Grand slam is possible if partner has:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                ♠️ A 10 8<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                ♥️ 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                ♦️ A Q 9 5 4 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                ♣️ A 9 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                <\/div>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                What did you think of this bridge lesson by Alain L\u00e9vy?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

                                                                                Share your view with other bridge players in the Comments<\/em> section below.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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